Hi,
There has been rumours that the Adepta Sororitas digital codex had changed the wording for Condemnor Boltgun on DakkaDakka for the last couple of days, and one person even e-mailed the GW Digital team and got the response that nothing had changed. Another person had redownloaded their eBook version 5 times with no change.
However today for another reason I was on the Black Library website, and saw this little blurb on the page of the Codex: Adepta Sororitas (eBook Edition) web page:
"Latest Update:
November 6th 2013 - Condemnor Boltgun and Allies rules clarifications"
Unfortunately I'm at work and don't want to download the ebook onto my work computer, but I will redownload it as soon as I get home and will update this post as soon as I know the changes.
In the meantime I will surf the web, because I am sure some people have downloaded the update and talked about the changes online.
I suppose this post also gives away my next modelling project :)
Rathstar
Update (7th Nov @ 17:30):
From checking the web it looks like the Condemnor Boltgun has been clarified that only a psyker hit takes the perils, so you can't hit a psyker in a unit unless you precision shot him and he fails the Look out Sir roll.
The other change was that in that it clarifies that you should take references to Sisters of Battle in the allies matrix to mean Adepta Sororitas. Lets hope this will mean no one tries to argue that you can't take a Repressor tank (Forgeworld) because it mentions "can be used in the following squads from a Sisters of Battle army"...but you know someone will :)
2nd Update (14 Nov):
While checking the DakkaDakka forum thread on Sisters of Battle Tactics (it's a long thread with peoples thoughts and experiences which I would recommend as a good read for any Adepta Sororitas player), I came accross a post saying the Adepta Sororitas had been updated again and that the wording of Psi-Shock has changed to the following:
"Psi-shock: Any Psyker that takes an unsaved Wound from a stake crossbow shot suffers the Perils of the Warp in addition to any other effects."
...effectively meaning the death toll for this new piece of wargear. If there was a psyker that I had a good chance of doing a wound to with a str5 ap- shot I would need any extra chance of killing it. Apparently this is the same wording as a similar piece of wargear in the Grey Knights codex, and there a good reason I never new it existed after playing copious games against Grey Knight armies.
The Condemnor Boltgun is no good against Screamer-Star, as the heralds, particularly the one with the Grimoire will be in a unit, and even if you could precision shot him, he has a 2+ Look Out Sir and an invunverable save. Against Fateweaver the chance of hitting him (particularly if he's still flying), wounding him and him failing his save is very very small.
Psyker Monstrous Creatures (the ones that are most likely not be attached to a unit and can be targetted easier) are likely to be T6+ and have a good armour save meaning the Condemnor Boltgun has little chance of causing a unsaved wound.
Against a Seer Council the Warlocks should be at the front, so if you do the unsaved wound you will have already killed the warlock, plus any Farseer who actually is hit can Look Out Sir the wound away on a 2+.
If I take combi weapon on my Adepta Sororitas characters it will probably be a combi-plasma in dominion squads (to give them more shots against infantry, I think 4 meltaguns should have vehicles covered) and a combi-melta in a Battle Sisters squad trying to be a back-up dominion squad (however I prefer the dual flamer squads).
Shame nice fluff for the Condemnor Boltgun, but no way it'll make it into my lists. Would have been a nice modelling opportunity as well :(
Update (7th Nov @ 17:30):
From checking the web it looks like the Condemnor Boltgun has been clarified that only a psyker hit takes the perils, so you can't hit a psyker in a unit unless you precision shot him and he fails the Look out Sir roll.
The other change was that in that it clarifies that you should take references to Sisters of Battle in the allies matrix to mean Adepta Sororitas. Lets hope this will mean no one tries to argue that you can't take a Repressor tank (Forgeworld) because it mentions "can be used in the following squads from a Sisters of Battle army"...but you know someone will :)
2nd Update (14 Nov):
While checking the DakkaDakka forum thread on Sisters of Battle Tactics (it's a long thread with peoples thoughts and experiences which I would recommend as a good read for any Adepta Sororitas player), I came accross a post saying the Adepta Sororitas had been updated again and that the wording of Psi-Shock has changed to the following:
"Psi-shock: Any Psyker that takes an unsaved Wound from a stake crossbow shot suffers the Perils of the Warp in addition to any other effects."
...effectively meaning the death toll for this new piece of wargear. If there was a psyker that I had a good chance of doing a wound to with a str5 ap- shot I would need any extra chance of killing it. Apparently this is the same wording as a similar piece of wargear in the Grey Knights codex, and there a good reason I never new it existed after playing copious games against Grey Knight armies.
The Condemnor Boltgun is no good against Screamer-Star, as the heralds, particularly the one with the Grimoire will be in a unit, and even if you could precision shot him, he has a 2+ Look Out Sir and an invunverable save. Against Fateweaver the chance of hitting him (particularly if he's still flying), wounding him and him failing his save is very very small.
Psyker Monstrous Creatures (the ones that are most likely not be attached to a unit and can be targetted easier) are likely to be T6+ and have a good armour save meaning the Condemnor Boltgun has little chance of causing a unsaved wound.
Against a Seer Council the Warlocks should be at the front, so if you do the unsaved wound you will have already killed the warlock, plus any Farseer who actually is hit can Look Out Sir the wound away on a 2+.
If I take combi weapon on my Adepta Sororitas characters it will probably be a combi-plasma in dominion squads (to give them more shots against infantry, I think 4 meltaguns should have vehicles covered) and a combi-melta in a Battle Sisters squad trying to be a back-up dominion squad (however I prefer the dual flamer squads).
Shame nice fluff for the Condemnor Boltgun, but no way it'll make it into my lists. Would have been a nice modelling opportunity as well :(
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