tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4272385179509972181.post7358062897918501791..comments2024-01-08T05:24:50.541+00:00Comments on Rathstar's Ramblings: [Dark Eldar] Venom Gets a Test Run – ASMOH Practice (& Lists)Rathstarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08799690336241322474noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4272385179509972181.post-31433244114726550902011-03-15T02:42:53.844+00:002011-03-15T02:42:53.844+00:00@Neath Leanan: But I paint so so so slow :( If I p...@Neath Leanan: But I paint so so so slow :( If I paint at the rate I've managed over the last 2 months I won't finish the Dark Eldar in the 2 month till the tournament :( This is compounded by my list changing slightly most games; do I paint 3 more incubi to finish the unit, or do I start a beastmaster unit ? I'll just concentrate for the moment on what does in all lists - a ravager and venoms.<br /><br />@Ding-dang-dhu: It all depends on what opponent you are against. In this battle one of my agoniser Hekatrix was in combat with 5+ save genestealers. In this scenario a venom blade would have done more damage.<br /><br />The main reason I give some of my Hekatrixs agonisers is so that the unit can have a hope of damaging some units/creatures. Basic str 3 hits in eneough numbers will do damage, however for heavyily armoured troops they won't do much.<br /><br />Regarding which upgrade to pick I would go with agonisers to help against terminators, wraithlords etc. If I wanted to save points I would pick the venom blade. I', unlikely to ever pick a power weapon, even if it has the potential to be the best weapon aginst T3 (if the wyches get +1 str for their drug roll).<br /><br />Agoniser vs Venom Blade<br /><br />The blade does 67% more wounds so which is best depends on the armour save:<br /><br />5+, 6+, No Save: Venom Blade<br />4+: Marginal win for the Agaonsier<br />2+ & 3+: Agoniser win<br /><br />For me the deciding factor is that for opponents that the venom blade is better the basic wyches should win easily anyway. However troops with good armour save which cause basic str 3 attacks of the wyches an issue the agoniser. That's why for the moment I'm going for agonisers.<br /><br />Outside incubi the DE close combat attacks are great against low armour save opoonets. Agaoniser give them a chance to win against other units as well.<br /><br />Rather than buy a power weapon I'd rather spend more to get an agoniser or save points and buy a venom blade. My big issue is that most units that have a good armour save normally are T4 or higher making causing wounds an issue.<br /><br />RathstarRathstarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08799690336241322474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4272385179509972181.post-27573894362102372532011-03-11T13:36:58.340+00:002011-03-11T13:36:58.340+00:00Great write up, thanks for taking the time.
I'...Great write up, thanks for taking the time.<br /><br />I'm thinking of running Venom blades instead of Aggonisers. As I'd prefer extra dice, forcing saves over pw hits. Does it balance out, over a game?Ding-dang-dhuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15898351435326016217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4272385179509972181.post-19225558680803436362011-03-11T09:30:03.456+00:002011-03-11T09:30:03.456+00:00You look way more prepared than me for ASMOH! At t...You look way more prepared than me for ASMOH! At this I'll just be photocopying my army list from last year!Neath Leananhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11895149847860399168noreply@blogger.com